Good Morning, Oppo

"ttyymmnn" (ttyymmnn) 04/24/2020 at 09:03 • Filed to: good morning oppo

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We made it to another Friday. Well done. 

There’s an interesting mix of iron   in this photo. The Tu-104 looked fast sitting still.

E90M3 > ttyymmnn 04/24/2020 at 09:09

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I was amazed that at SVO they still bused you to the plane. It was April when I was there, can’t imagine doing that during the Russian winter. Hell, TJM didn’t even have gates. 

WilliamsSW > ttyymmnn 04/24/2020 at 09:17

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Let’s see, I think DC-9, Sabreliner, 707 and BAC One-Eleven?

ttyymmnn > WilliamsSW 04/24/2020 at 09:23

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Yes DC-9, but I think the red and white one at the top is a Lockheed Jet S tar, and the one in the bottom right is a Hawker Siddeley Trident.

WilliamsSW > ttyymmnn 04/24/2020 at 09:36

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Agree - I always get the Sabreliner and Jetstar mixed up, and I thought for sure the lower right aircraft was a twin, but Trident is it.

BTW— back to your post on cars and aircraft that share names. This is an Oldsmobile Jetstar 1:

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > ttyymmnn 04/24/2020 at 09:37

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I’m looking at some of the vehicles. You see those buses? I’m a little curious as to who made them. It seems to be hard to find how to search for front-open airport buses - I don’t seem to have hit on the magic word combination yet.

Here’s a modern one made by Mercedes Benz, but I’m getting the sense they’re just not very common.

ttyymmnn > WilliamsSW 04/24/2020 at 09:43

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In the case of the Oldsmobile, I would wager that the car was named after the plane . The Jet Star first flew in 1957.

ttyymmnn > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/24/2020 at 09:44

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Pretty sure this photo was taken in Europe. I’ll see if I can find out where.

ttyymmnn > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/24/2020 at 09:46

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For starters, it seems that I posted this same picture 7 years ago.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > ttyymmnn 04/24/2020 at 09:52

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I identified the Lockheed. And I was guessing DC-9.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > WilliamsSW 04/24/2020 at 09:53

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For my taste and opinion, unsought though it is, I think that’s too big a car to have only two doors.

Also, I had a slice of cold Chicago pizza for brekkie this morning. We really enjoyed those pizzas. Thanks again for sending them.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > ttyymmnn 04/24/2020 at 09:55

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Parallel evolution, one might suppose. Olds had a Starfire as early as ‘54, and had been branding with “jet” and “rocket” longer still. One might assume you could put Olds branding jargon in a bingo machine and get “Jetstar” within a few tries.

facw > E90M3 04/24/2020 at 10:00

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Bu sing is a lot more common in Europe than in the US. My last trip to Europe had 3 jetway arrivals/departures and 3 by bus.

You can see at Berlin’s disaster of a brand-new airport how much space is dedicated to ramp parking compared to the fairly small number of gates:

I’m sure they’ve at least considered the possibility of adding a future mid-field terminal, but this is what they thought was good for now. Granted the airports it’s replacing only had 17 jetways by count, but they also had a large number of ramp “gates” served by bus or a direct walk from the terminal.

I of course think we should all be using Dulles style mobile lounges , though clearly that has fallen out of favor.

WilliamsSW > ttyymmnn 04/24/2020 at 10:44

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Yes, 1964 was the first production Jetstar, not sure if there were any show cars that used that name earlier.

Ramblin Rover is right, it could have been a coincidence, too - they already had a Starfire and Jetfire in production by then, so Jetstar was the next logical combo.

Also, did we ever come up with an example where the car came before the airplane? Only one I can think of — maybe — is the Cessna Skylark. It came after the Buick did by 5 years, but maybe they’re both named after another aircraft that I’m forgetting.   

ttyymmnn > WilliamsSW 04/24/2020 at 10:48

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Also, did we ever come up with an example where the car came before the airplane?

I’m not sure. We certainly came up with plenty of cars and planes with the same name, but as to chicken-and-egg, I don’t know.

WilliamsSW > ttyymmnn 04/24/2020 at 10:48

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I think 99% of them were airplane first.  

WilliamsSW > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 04/24/2020 at 11:07

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Glad you enjoyed the pizza!

I owned a sister to this car - same year but a Dyanamic 88, also a two door but with a different roofline and 2 barrel carb instead of 4.

It was a great car - two doors were just more popular then.  More so in the 70s.  My parents had 2 kids and drove mostly 2 door cars that whole decade.